Battle of the Sexy?

female boxerLast week I interviewed the first male erotica writer to visit my blog, Andrew Harding. I’d been reading an article by Travis Luedke about discrimination against male writers of erotica and I asked Andrew if he’d ever come across anything like that (you can read the interview here if you missed it).

Now this got me thinking. Does it matter to me who writes the erotica I read? Do I mind whether the writer is male or female? I read more female writers than male writers but that’s purely because I tend to come across more books written by women. For me, I don’t think it matters at all as long as the story itself appeals to me. I think the only thing that does bother me about reading erotica written by a man is that I wonder if it will be too graphic for me in terms of body parts and gore if it’s a thriller/murder mystery.male boxer

So what about you? Do you pause and think before reading erotica written by a man or dive right in as long as you like the sound of the tale about to be told? What about if it’s f/f fiction? There are plenty of m/m books out there written by women, but do you prefer your f/f to be written by a woman? And for any type of erotica does it really make a difference?

I have a wonderful piece of historical erotica below, written by a very talented author and I wonder if you can tell – is this author male or female and why?

I’m interviewing this author on Friday, so you can have the answer then. In the meantime, I’d love it if you would comment below and answer the poll:

Is this excerpt written by a man or a woman?

  • Man (62%, 8 Votes)
  • Woman (38%, 5 Votes)

Total Voters: 13

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Here’s the excerpt :):

Mary floated from the powder room into the bedroom that held her beloved. Her hair was done up in a perfect set of curls, hands powdered white, body carefully scented in all of the right places. He was right, where there was love, there was luxury, and her love helped her block out the dreary dirtiness of their honeymoon suite.

“You move like a noble lady,” said Edward. “You make this room your palace and I your servant.”

Seductively, he pulled back his shirt and revealed again the full manliness of his chiseled torso. He shook his long black hair out of his eyes and it was with great willpower that she did not give in to this sensuous action and rush to his arms. He enjoyed her reaction to even his slightest of movements, enjoyed the power each part of his body held over her eyes as they remained transfixed.

He unbuttoned his pants, but hesitated. She realized she had been staring, frozen, at the bulge between his legs, and did not look up until he laughed, causing renewed blush at her eagerness to feast her eyes on this grand rooster.

“Do not toy with me, husband. I long to feel you in my arms with abandon, release the emotions you have inspired but I would not set free until you called me wife.”

He let the pants drop, causing a hard intake of breath. She was not sure if he was fully aroused, but he had the equipment to rival any stallion.

He beckoned her to come forth. A side of her would have preferred he had a bath first, to wash away the muck of the road, yet something about the scent of Edward, even when dirty, aroused her immeasurably.

She went to his arms, about to kiss him, when he turned her toward the large mirror over the dresser. With the weight of his body, he nudged her closer to the glass.

His powerful arms crisscrossed her chest as he stood behind her.

“Look at yourself, Mary. You see a noble lady, powdered and puffed in full grandeur. You see yourself such, as Edgar sees himself a nobleman, as all of your family perceives themselves, nearly royal in stature.”

He ripped her nightgown apart with one complete sweep and let it drop to the floor, exposing her full bosom and delicately trimmed private parts.

“But I will peel away all the perceptions that are false, and show that underneath lies the sordidness of the most common scoundrel, and the base feelings of the lowest soul.”

Mary turned to protest, to make effort to break away and confront his words with her own sharp tongue. But he put both her nipples between each thumb and index finger and teased them with a gentle caress, instantly calming her ire.

She moaned her approval.

His slow caress turned to a sudden twist, causing her to cry out in discomfort.

“Please, Edward. More gentle.”

“You will learn to enjoy the pain.”

He delicately cupped her full breasts, sensually kneading them with his strong hands, and she closed her eyes and swooned slightly. He licked along her earlobe, letting his hot breath brush against her neck.

“Yes, my love,” she whispered.

Thumb and finger at the nipples again, hard, turning, and she cried out once more, but this time her exclamations revealed more of the throbbing pleasure that joined intensely with the sting.

“That’s it, Mary. Don’t fight it. Give in to your body and more gratification than you ever dreamed of will be yours.”

The cupping of his hands at her breasts turned rougher, and she could feel her chest swell with desire. Her nipples leaped to his fingers, whether teased or twisted.

From his sensuous licking at her ear, he went to her neck, and she arched her head back and let her weight fall against his. His tongue was like a wand that marked spells along her flesh. He went back to her earlobe, grabbing it with his teeth, caressing lightly, with love it seemed, until he bit a little more sharply.

“Edward!” She struggled again to break free of his arms, but was helpless in his mighty grip.

“Look in the mirror now. Not so noble. I see the coarse desire that existed before you yourself were aware.”

She was about to voice further protest, but then he slid his hand down her stomach and rested it firmly between her thighs. With one finger he began a circular caress at her most vulnerable spot.

Who is this man? she wondered, a tremble forming in her body.

 

NOTE: I have altered the names on this excerpt, purely because if I used the real ones it would be all too easy to guess the story.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/natasha.knight.946 Natasha Knight

    One of my favorite erotica writers is a man – Trent Evans. I don’t mind if the author is male or female and will always read a sample chapter before buying a book. If it appeals, I will buy it. I guess I have had the feeling that men will write more crudely but that’s not the case at all. This is for men who write M/f – I don’t really read much f/f so I don’t know what I’d think of a man writing f/f fiction. I’m curious about what others think who do read f/f. I’m curious about the author of this excerpt!

    • LivHoneywell

      I must say, I’m hoping we get comments from a few people who read a lot of f/f erotica too. I’ve read some and don’t think I would mind if it was written by a man, but I don’t read a huge amount of it. Thank you for commenting :)

      • http://twitter.com/AndrewHarding18 Andrew Harding

        This is a very interesting blog, Liv, and it’s been enlightening to read all the comments after being featured here last week.

        As you know I write m/f erotica and it’s strong by anyone’s standards and my writing couldn’t go anywhere other than graphic books. Some of my hybrid couples are m/m and f/f though I don’t go into much detail about their sex, only the quirkiest escapades of the m/m couple as they are outrageous and too funny not to write. Anyone who’s downloaded them to fill their kindle when on a free day, without reading a sample or the book blurb, will be shocked at the content, woven through a thriller.

        On reading the excerpt, I think it’s a man, writing his first attempt at anything stronger than he’d dared to go before, pretending to be female. I’m with Travis about Mills & Boon, dipping their toe in a more graphic romance genre, although totally missing the point of real erotica, I’ve been told. (As I mentioned in my interview, I don’t read any so as not to dilute my own writing with any other author’s work and I have to say that this excerpt would have no impact on that, whatsoever).

        When I first started writing I searched M&B on Google, long before I wrote anything erotic into my books. I didn’t read any but had seen their books for years, stacked in crates at every car-boot sale and had heard that they were as limp as dried out lettuce and therefore surprised they’d changed tack. ‘Bandwagon’ was the word that hit me first when I saw that.

        I also feel sure that the excerpt was written for women only, hence the crude attempt at trying to sound like a female writer, with a man’s head on. It seems to me he was thoroughly unsure how far to push it, engaging his female brain, if he had one. (I’m prepared to be surprised if this was written by a female, trying to sound butch).

        I don’t profess to be an authority on that myself. The way my books evolve is totally different from the excerpt and I couldn’t write like that if I tried; sounds like waffle to me. (This puts my books, the hybrid series, into ‘hard-core’ by this standard, and most of the erotica, out there. Maybe I’m not the best person to judge?)

  • Nulli Para Ora

    I haven’t read any male authors in this genre so far, not out of avoidance, but mostly because I am new to reading romance. A compelling story would intrigue me no matter the gender of the of the writer.
    As for the excerpt, I’m going to guess it was written by a male author. The line about him needing a bath, and how part of her enjoyed the smell (stench), that bit doesn’t sound like something a woman would crave. Smell was a powerful thing in historic society, but this modern woman would wait for him to wash. :)

    • LivHoneywell

      Yes me too, Nulli :). I think it would depend what he smelled of lol. I’m not fond of cologne because it makes me sneeze but the smell of just man on it’s own is rather yummy :)

      • LivHoneywell

        I should add – If it’s the right man, of course ;)

        • Nulli Para Ora

          True, but the words, “muck of the road” don’t make me think “man” in terms of smell. It makes me think of a combination of sweat, mud/dirt, and horse. Given the language, deodorant hasn’t been invented yet, so, bath please!

  • Bebe Balocca

    I’m voting for woman, only because I’ve only read female writers and this seems entirely natural and within the norm of what I’ve read. I don’t mind the bit about his smell, either. As far as reading a male author of either MF or FF, I tend to read the title and blurb first. If they sound good, I think a male author would actually intrigue me. I’d want to read an excerpt to see what his voice sounded like.

    • LivHoneywell

      Yes, I read the blurb first for any book. That tends to be how I choose them, regardless of who wrote them, though I do look at covers too. Thanks for commenting, Bebe :)

  • http://twitter.com/ReneeRoseAuthor Renee Rose

    I’m voting male. I think I might actually be more likely/ curious to read a male author’s erotica, simply because we don’t get their voice as often…

    • LivHoneywell

      Yes, me too. I wish there were more available to read. I have a writing partner who is dominant and it’s always interesting (and sometimes eye opening!) to get his point of view on my writing :). We’re hoping to write something together at some point :). Thank you for commenting, Renee :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/TWLuedke Travis Luedke

    This has the feel of something like an old Mills and Boone with a touch of the new “violent” BDSM trend in romance novels. A lot of purple prose going on. I would be surprised if this was found in an erotica category, because it really flows like a victorian-historical romance. In my opinion, it barely qualifies as erotic romance. Putting an erotica tag on this novel might be a mistake.

    Its romance with a little flair.

    As far as the question of male or female goes, I vote female. Here’s my reason:

    As a male author in paranormal erotica, I write stuff that has some teeth to it, gritty, intense. I don’t like getting overly anatomical in my work, and I try to have an actual story apart from the sex, so really my novels are more erotic romance than erotica.

    Its a little bit hard to swallow *pun intended* that a man would be interested in writing a historical romance novel of this kind. It just feels like something written by women for women.

    My own novels are written for a female market, but because I write them to entertain myself as well, many a male reader has enjoyed them. There’s enough action, thriller roller-coaster intensity, that men and women both like my books.

    A man writing exclusively for a female audience seems like he’s denying himself the pleasure of his own writing.

    So I vote its a female author, because I don’t see this book having much appeal to male readers.

    Call me chauvinist or whatever, I’m just keepin’ it real.

    • LivHoneywell

      Interesting comment, Travis, and thanks for sharing it. The excerpt is from a historical romance and once you know the book, the prose does actually fit :). I must say, I found it erotic but then, I think you’re probably right that the book would appeal more to a female audience.

      On Facebook, I did get an interesting comment from Eri Nelson that she thinks male erotica writers probably get less approaches from readers who think they are more promiscuous because of their writing genre. A slight aside from the current discussion, but do you find you get some of those type of comments from readers? I know several of my female writer friends have had them.

      • http://www.facebook.com/TWLuedke Travis Luedke

        On the question of approaches from readers, I am a very social creature, and I talk to everyone who wants to talk, especially if they want to talk about my books. So, if I was being hit on, I was probably so absorbed in the book praise that it flew right over my head. LOL.

        I think that female readers are far less apt to make assumptions that the author is promiscuous or inviting of such offers.

        Men look for any excuse or reason to assume a woman is interested. So us horn-dogs will make offers all day long, with or without reason. The fact that you’re on social media with an attractive picture is good enough reason.

        Having said all that, I have had a couple ladies who seemed very very friendly.

        :)

  • LivHoneywell

    Thanks everyone for all your comment so far. I’ve had some very interesting links from Shar Azade which I think you might enjoy.

    First up is the Gender Genie which can, apparently guess whether your writing is male or female from a sample. I looked for this but the website seems to be down, however there is another one – Hacker Factor’s Gender Guesser: http://www.hackerfactor.com/GenderGuesser.php#Analyze.

    Shar wrote about her results with running her writing through Gender Genie in her article, You Blog Like a Girl – http://sharazade.com/?p=127. Go give her a comment – it’s a really interesting article :).

    I ran the above excerpt through the Gender Guesser and the results are interesting. As informal writing, the results are weak male voice, possibly European (?), and viewed as formal writing, Hacker Factor thinks the writer is a woman.

    How about you try your writing and let us know what happens?

    Oh you want to know what mine came out as? Well, for informal writing it comes out as weak female and for formal writing weak male – both indicated because I might be European, which I am. Interesting.

  • Thianna D

    Intriguing. I read an article not so much on the sex of the author as to the sex of the intended reader. The male reader tends to want less emotion, more sex and they want the woman to be more of the aggressor. I am still unsure as to the sex of the author, but the “grand rooster” comment made me vote male.

    • LivHoneywell

      Interesting. I wonder if all the Doms we know would agree with wanting the woman to be the aggressor ;). I spotted the “grand rooster” comment too and thought male, but then wondered if it was simply something that would have been said at the time, with it being historical fiction. Thanks for commenting, Thianna :)

      • Thianna D

        Yeah, I know. LOL When I read the article I thought – what males did they speak to?

  • Willsin Rowe

    I’ve been pondering just today about the concept of discrimination against males when it comes to erotica. There is, for instance, the Best Women’s Erotica anthology every year, which is touted as being basically “by women for women”. And that’s cool. It merely makes me wonder what it might be that might make women shy away from male-penned erotica. And I’ve also posted on Facebook about the concept of a gender-opposite anthology…basically an anthology of erotica FOR men, BY men. I wonder if there’d be much of a market for it?

    • LivHoneywell

      Yes, I mentioned on Facebook that I can’t understand why there should be a problem. I look for a good story first and foremost and only think about who wrote it afterwards, apart from some favourite authors where I know I will enjoy pretty much anything they write.

      I think for me Shar Azade summed it up perfectly when she said ” Convince me with the writing, and I don’t care if you have a gender at all.”

    • Goodwriter

      As a male writer, I don’t have a problem with the call for an anthology that is by women for women. Men have occupied enough of the luxury suites when it comes to the arts and I hold no grudges for women seeking a room of their own. As far as an all-male written m/f anthology, it is an interesting concept. But the reality is, most of the readers would still probably be women, while many of their male counterparts continue to chill on the couch, a Movie-On-Demand on the screen, the remote in their hands.

      • LivHoneywell

        Thanks for commenting, Goodwriter. So what do you think ladies? Would you read a for men, by men erotica anthology?

  • http://twitter.com/AndrewHarding18 Andrew Harding

    This is a very interesting blog, Liv, and it’s been enlightening to read all the comments after being featured here last week.

    As you know I write m/f erotica and it’s strong by anyone’s standards and my writing couldn’t go anywhere other than graphic books. Some of my hybrid couples are m/m and f/f though I don’t go into much detail about their sex, only the quirkiest escapades of the m/m couple as they are outrageous and too funny not to write. Anyone who’s downloaded them to fill their kindle when on a free day, without reading a sample or the book blurb, will be shocked at the content, woven through a thriller.

    On reading the excerpt, I think it’s a man, writing his first attempt at anything stronger than he’d dared to go before, pretending to be female. I’m with Travis about Mills & Boon, dipping their toe in a more graphic romance genre, although totally missing the point of real erotica, I’ve been told. (As I mentioned in my interview, I don’t read any so as not to dilute my own writing with any other author’s work and I have to say that this excerpt would have no impact on that, whatsoever).

    When I first started writing I searched M&B on Google, long before I wrote anything erotic into my books. I didn’t read any but had seen their books for years, stacked in crates at every car-boot sale and had heard that they were as limp as dried out lettuce and therefore surprised they’d changed tack. ‘Bandwagon’ was the word that hit me first when I saw that.

    I also feel sure that the excerpt was written for women only, hence the crude attempt at trying to sound like a female writer, with a man’s head on. It seems to me he was thoroughly unsure how far to push it, engaging his female brain, if he had one. (I’m prepared to be surprised if this was written by a female, trying to sound butch).

    I don’t profess to be an authority on that myself. The way my books evolve is totally different from the excerpt and I couldn’t write like that if I tried; sounds like waffle to me. (This puts my books, the hybrid series, into ‘hard-core’ by this standard, and most of the erotica, out there. Maybe I’m not the best person to judge?)

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